{"id":1425,"date":"2016-02-14T06:29:19","date_gmt":"2016-02-14T11:29:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/?p=1425"},"modified":"2025-08-10T18:42:26","modified_gmt":"2025-08-10T22:42:26","slug":"tdp-patagonia-the-w-ref-cuernos-to-ref-el-chileno","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/tdp-patagonia-the-w-ref-cuernos-to-ref-el-chileno\/","title":{"rendered":"The &#8220;W&#8221; &#8211; Ref. Cuernos to Ref. El Chileno"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>The &#8220;W&#8221; trek &#8211; Ref. Los Cuernos to Refugio El Chileno<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We&#8217;d expected this section to be a bit of a breather after the massive 17+ miles the day before. &nbsp;Though the unknown was the &#8220;shortcut&#8221; &#8211; various posts about the &#8220;W&#8221; had talked about a shortcut, but none of the trail maps showed the shortcut as a trail alternate. &nbsp;No problem, the total distance, sans shortcut, was a bit less than 20Km (maybe 10 miles) &#8211; a bit day, but not nearly as much as the day before.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0659.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0659-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"The TDP version of trail signage.\" class=\"wp-image-1429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0659-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0659-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The TDP version of trail signage.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Breakfast in Los Cuernos was a self-serve family style &#8211; eggs, yogurt, uncooked oatmeal, and the always-present slices of ham and cheese, oh, and of course, some coffee (yeah!). \u00a0Some quick goodbyes to our trail buddies, packed, and we were off shortly after 9am. \u00a0After the mostly\u00a0cloudy day for our <a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/tdp-patagonia-the-w-ref-paine-grande-to-ref-cuernos\">French Valley section<\/a>, \u00a0the skies looked promising, like they might clear later in the day.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0666.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0666-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Lago Nordenskjold\" class=\"wp-image-1430\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0666-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0666-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Lago Nordenskjold<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Basically, picking up where we left off &#8211; again, we were following Lago Nordenskjold. &nbsp;Not quite on the water&#8217;s edge, but inland a bit, still in the bowl carved out by some glacier eons ago.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0670.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0670-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Stream crossing\" class=\"wp-image-1431\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0670-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0670-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Stream crossing &#8211; This is late summer &#8211; not sure I&#8217;d want to cross this at high water in the spring!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>We&#8217;d already crossed a few &#8216;streams&#8217; up until this point, though the TDP version of streams is FAR more aggressive than what we&#8217;d been accustomed to in New Hampshire&#8217;s Whites. &nbsp;Maybe &#8220;river&#8221; would be a more apt term. &nbsp;It being mid-to-late summer, the water level was fairly low &#8211; but even so, quite a bit more water than expected. &nbsp; &nbsp;You can just imagine what late spring looks like, with all the winter runoff. Thankfully, yet another bridge.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0673.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0673-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Shortcut\" class=\"wp-image-1435\" title=\"Shortcut\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0673-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0673-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&#8230; not that the shortcut is a secret or hard to find<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Because there weren&#8217;t any maps that showed the &#8220;shortcut&#8221;, we really didn&#8217;t know how far before the signage &#8211; if there was any signage at all. &nbsp;Images of shortcuts being something like a &#8220;herdpath&#8221;, that might not be immediately obvious. &nbsp;Fortunately, it was really obvious once we arrived &#8211; sure looked like a regular trail junction &#8211; with a fancier sign than we&#8217;d seen at many of the other trail junctions. &nbsp; Easy enough and with that we began to pick up elevation, as we traversed further inland (moving uphill, away from the lake).<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0676.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0676-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Valle Ascensio headed toward Ref. El Chileno\" class=\"wp-image-1437\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0676-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0676-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Valle Ascensio headed toward Ref. El Chileno<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Eventually, rejoining the trail from Hotel Las Torres, we began heading into the Valle Ascensio, meeting up with day trippers from the Hotel. &nbsp; As we&#8217;d gained a bit of elevation on the shortcut, we eventually moved from grassy, into more of an alpine look, with scree from the nearby summits. &nbsp; &nbsp;Someone had a bit of laughs with the signage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We&#8217;d both been fighting some sort of head cold on the earlier few days &#8211; initially thought to be allergy related, it was clearly something more &#8211; catching up with both of us today. &nbsp;Maybe the result of yesterday&#8217;s mileage, we got to the Refugio and basically collapsed for the afternoon.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0690.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0690-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Rolling Stones?\" class=\"wp-image-1439\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0690-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0690-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rolling Stones?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>With 20-20 hindsight, this day&#8217;s weather was the pick of the week &#8211; had we had the energy, we might&nbsp;have pressed onward with just day-packs deeper into the valley to see the TDP Towers &#8211; the showcase for much of the park &#8211; but, we have to respect what our bodies tell us. &nbsp;We&#8217;d already completed nearly 40 miles with full packs. Good stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0678.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0678-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Chileno and stickers on the window.\" class=\"wp-image-1443\" srcset=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0678-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/IMG_0678-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Chileno and stickers on the window from around the world, including Sugarloaf and Mad River Glen!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>Chileno was the first time we ran into another odd culturism &#8211; stickers. &nbsp;The windows were plastered with them &#8211; kind of fun, actually, they were from all over the world. &nbsp; And sure enough, there was &#8220;Mad River Glenn&#8221; and &#8220;Sugarloaf&#8221;. &nbsp;What&#8217;s the thought process? &nbsp;I&#8217;m going to the tip of South America, maybe I&#8217;ll bring a bumper sticker with me? &nbsp; Anyway, a bit of fun reading!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The afternoon done and the evening dinner passed quietly. &nbsp;For us, early to bed, with hopes of making it to the towers the next day and then leave the valley for Hotel Las Torres (with its spa services :-)).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Read more: <a href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/tdp-patagonia-the-w-hotel-las-torres\">Hotel Las Torres<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The &#8220;W&#8221; trek &#8211; Ref. Los Cuernos to Refugio El Chileno We&#8217;d expected this section to be a bit of a breather after the massive 17+ miles the day before. &nbsp;Though the unknown was the &#8220;shortcut&#8221; &#8211; various posts about the &#8220;W&#8221; had talked about a shortcut, but none of the trail maps showed the shortcut as a trail alternate. &nbsp;No problem, the total distance, sans shortcut, was a bit less than 20Km (maybe 10 miles) &#8211; a bit day,<a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/tdp-patagonia-the-w-ref-cuernos-to-ref-el-chileno\/\">Read More &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1435,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"category-hiking.php","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1425","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-patagonia"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1425","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1425"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1425\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4918,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1425\/revisions\/4918"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1435"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1425"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1425"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/peterdittman.com\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1425"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}